[A6] Gathering at least 100 Andromeda users...
Dan Goldman
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Fri Mar 9 17:23:59 PST 2012
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On 9 Mar 2012, at 21:45, wdwhaleyemail-a6 at yahoo.com wrote:
> I'm glad to see excitement about the A6. Personally, however, I am not excited about an editor for the A6, which is knob/button-laden and, therefore, easy to program. Some folks love editors, but I am not one, unless it's for a spartan-panelled synth.
>
> That said, if we ever head down the path of firmware that fixes bugs and implements functionality, then I am on board.
>
> Good luck in the editor endeavour!
>
> Cheers.
>
> WD
>
> --- On Fri, 3/9/12, ivan <ivan at m127.com> wrote:
>
>> From: ivan <ivan at m127.com>
>> Subject: Re: [A6] Gathering at least 100 Andromeda users...
>> To: "'Ing. Ivan Hirlander'" <addam at addam.sk>, a6 at lists.soulrebels.com
>> Date: Friday, March 9, 2012, 2:10 AM
>> I
>> am suggesting a tentative competitive price based on the
>> market for professional synth editors, just so that devs get
>> inspired. Pro editors go from $70 to a bit
>> above $100-110 USD.
>> Of
>> course guys, if we can drive many more users in than the
>> initial target, we then automatically acquire more
>> power to negotiate the price down with the devs, which would
>> be great.
>> Hence
>> community support is crucial.
>> Start
>> inviting people over, so we can succeed.
>> I
>> saw the email from “leo en lydia”> yes, we
>> would strive for a MacOS version TOO!
>>
>>
>> From:
>> Ing. Ivan Hirlander [mailto:addam at addam.sk]
>> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 1:51 AM
>> To: a6 at lists.soulrebels.com
>> Subject: Re: [A6] Gathering at least 100 Andromeda
>> users... Hi Ivan,
>>
>> any price idea?
>>
>> Ivan
>>
>> Dňa 9.3.2012 10:35, ivan wrote / napísal(a): Fantastic!, 3
>> are in below, plus 3 from me = 6 (in 5 minutes!!), 94
>> left to go. Keep them
>> coming!! Thanks for your support guys.I will keep
>> track and count of all the yay sayers! We can make it
>> happen guys. I will update you soon on an action plan
>> to rally for more initial supporters. Ditto on the
>> VST capability. And ditto on a fair price based at least on
>> the market. When we get
>> enough users in the affirmative, I will start pushing for
>> those two aspects and see what's possible technically
>> according to the devs. Ivan. PS> Off to
>> bed for now. Hi,
>>
>> I think this is a good idea. I'd be a buyer at a
>> reasonable price. I would however insist on a VST version
>> too, that would make the librarian 10x more useful and
>> easier to use.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Andromedaris6 Op 9 mrt. 2012, om 09:56
>> heeft ivan het volgende geschreven: > >
>> 1. Would you like to see
>> a professional librarian or editor or both as much as I
>> would? Yes! Good initiative
>> :-) > >
>> 2. Would you be willing
>> to help me rally for the initial 100 licensees target AND be
>> one of them, which already is sweet sounding to the ears of
>> potential devs? Yes. I'm in for one.
>> And I do second the VST/AU option of Andromedaris6.Even more dreaming: iPad
>> version!= From: Rizal
>> Khan [mailto:rizalkhan at gmail.com]
>>
>> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 1:11 AM
>> To: ivan
>> Cc: <a6 at lists.soulrebels.com>
>> Subject: Re: [A6] Gathering at least 100 Andromeda
>> users... 1. Yes. Heck I'd even pay
>> for it if it's in the same price range as the Moog
>> voyager one. 2. I don't know any other
>> A6 users in Malaysia. I had mine specially ordered. The only
>> time I'd seen an A6 outside my home was at this guys
>> shop in South Yarra, Melbourne, Australia. I'll think I
>> have his card somewhere. Man. Thanks for putting this
>> together.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> On Mar 9, 2012, at 4:56 PM, "ivan" <ivan at m127.com>
>> wrote:OK,
>> guys. I
>> guess to expedite and to not hold your breaths longer than
>> necessary and risk putting your expectations too high, maybe
>> I will just unveil the idea now. The
>> objective is this:
>> to get a professional developer to create the a6
>> librarian/editor our synth deserves> standalone,
>> Mac/W-compatible, including all functions considered
>> standard in pro librarian/editor (as much as the a6’s
>> MIDI implementation permits). My
>> approach to make it happen is this:
>> Basically, the idea came from observing the same question
>> over and over in different forums and communities: where can
>> I get a pro A6 editor/librarian? In digging more, I
>> saw many attempts have been made and usually those were
>> medium to very low quality results compared to what a synth
>> such as the a6 deserves. So
>> I thought: how come we don’t have a professional one?
>> From my findings in talking directly to some
>> developers, I realized they were hesitant from the low
>> direct requests AND because when they were
>> proactively interested, the a6 was simply NOT
>> ready for it (remember how the MIDI implementation was
>> one of the major shortcomings of the initial
>> OSs?) Long story short, I have been in talks
>> with a couple of pro reputable developers, and they
>> showed genuine initial interest when I told them that
>> we could gather at least 100 interested licensees for
>> version 1. Let’s be realistic, who would want
>> to take the risk to develop such product for a discontinued
>> hw synth just like that? So
>> my idea to approach this obstacle is that we create
>> together a win-win situation both for us (getting the
>> pro editor-librarian that we want and need) and for them
>> (securing a minimally juicy initial user base of 100 users
>> and the rights over the sw for future maintenance and
>> marketing, etc.) Thus, this is not a
>> for-profit initiative for us (especially not for me for the
>> sake of honesty), we just want a GREAT librarian at the very
>> least… and so I took the initiative to talk to devs
>> and to rally for your attention, which is why we are
>> talking about this now :). I know there may be better
>> ways and what not, but without initiative and driven will
>> there is nothing really, and we all know there was indeed
>> nothing going on for our a6 since the dismal product
>> discontinuation was announced. Finally
>> for now, in talking to these developers, they think my
>> suggestion to rally for a committed and guaranteed initial
>> user base of at least 100 licensees so that they see the
>> project is financially feasible IS A GOOD ONE and I have
>> their initial interest, and so it’s up to us to show
>> unity and genuine, honest interest for this
>> project. So,
>> before we go any further, I would like to ask you directly 2
>> things for which an answer would be very appreciated:
>> 1.
>> Would
>> you like to see a professional librarian or editor or both
>> as much as I would? 2.
>> Would
>> you be willing to help me rally for the initial 100
>> licensees target AND
>> be one of them, which already is sweet sounding to the
>> ears of potential devs? If
>> my idea seems stupid to you, I apologize (please spare the
>> guy with the initiative!!) However, I assure you it has been
>> well received by potential pro devs and I truly think the
>> 100 licensee target could be easily attainable if we
>> pull together. I
>> am one of those willing to even provide the funds for 3
>> licenses myself for the sake of seeing this positive project
>> taking off the ground. Of course, I never agreed to pay for
>> the full license in advance in my proposal to them. My
>> thought was that they could get inspired even with a 50%
>> down payment just to show our seriousness, which should be
>> more than enough, and we can even negotiate this further
>> with WHOEVER we want to work with for this project,
>> once we start laying down the options. For
>> now,
>> let me know your responses to those 2 questions guys, and
>> thanks much for your attention. Hope this was not
>> uberlong email, I tried to be as concise and
>> informative as possible. Ivan._______________________________________________
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