[A6] Gathering at least 100 Andromeda users...

wdwhaleyemail-a6 at yahoo.com wdwhaleyemail-a6 at yahoo.com
Fri Mar 9 13:45:42 PST 2012


I'm glad to see excitement about the A6.  Personally, however, I am not excited about an editor for the A6, which is knob/button-laden and, therefore, easy to program.  Some folks love editors, but I am not one, unless it's for a spartan-panelled synth.

That said, if we ever head down the path of firmware that fixes bugs and implements functionality, then I am on board.

Good luck in the editor endeavour!

Cheers.

WD

--- On Fri, 3/9/12, ivan <ivan at m127.com> wrote:

> From: ivan <ivan at m127.com>
> Subject: Re: [A6] Gathering at least 100 Andromeda users...
> To: "'Ing. Ivan Hirlander'" <addam at addam.sk>, a6 at lists.soulrebels.com
> Date: Friday, March 9, 2012, 2:10 AM
> I
> am suggesting a tentative competitive price based on the
> market for professional synth editors, just so that devs get
> inspired.  Pro editors go from $70 to a bit
> above $100-110 USD.
>  Of
> course guys, if we can drive many more users in than the
> initial target, we then automatically acquire more
> power to negotiate the price down with the devs, which would
> be great.
>  Hence
> community support is crucial.
>  Start
> inviting people over, so we can succeed.
>  I
> saw the email from “leo en lydia”> yes, we
> would strive for a MacOS version TOO!
>  
>  
>  From:
> Ing. Ivan Hirlander [mailto:addam at addam.sk] 
> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 1:51 AM
> To: a6 at lists.soulrebels.com
> Subject: Re: [A6] Gathering at least 100 Andromeda
> users...  Hi Ivan,
> 
> any price idea?
> 
> Ivan
> 
> Dňa 9.3.2012 10:35, ivan  wrote / napísal(a): Fantastic!, 3
> are in below, plus 3 from me = 6 (in 5 minutes!!), 94
> left to go. Keep them
> coming!!  Thanks for your support guys.I will keep
> track and count of all the yay sayers! We can make it
> happen guys.  I will update you soon on an action plan
> to rally for more initial supporters. Ditto on the
> VST capability. And ditto on a fair price based at least on
> the market. When we get
> enough users in the affirmative, I will start pushing for
> those two aspects and see what's possible technically
> according to the devs.  Ivan. PS> Off to
> bed for now.  Hi,
> 
> I think this is a good idea. I'd be a buyer at a
> reasonable price. I would however insist on a VST version
> too, that would make the librarian 10x more useful and
> easier to use.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Andromedaris6 Op 9 mrt. 2012, om 09:56
> heeft ivan het volgende geschreven: > >
> 1.       Would you like to see
> a professional librarian or editor or both as much as I
> would?   Yes! Good initiative
> :-) > >
> 2.       Would you be willing
> to help me rally for the initial 100 licensees target AND be
> one of them, which already is sweet sounding to the ears of
> potential devs? Yes. I'm in for one.
> And I do second the VST/AU option of Andromedaris6.Even more dreaming: iPad
> version!=   From: Rizal
> Khan [mailto:rizalkhan at gmail.com]
> 
> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 1:11 AM
> To: ivan
> Cc: <a6 at lists.soulrebels.com>
> Subject: Re: [A6] Gathering at least 100 Andromeda
> users... 1. Yes. Heck I'd even pay
> for it if it's in the same price range as the Moog
> voyager one. 2. I don't know any other
> A6 users in Malaysia. I had mine specially ordered. The only
> time I'd seen an A6 outside my home was at this guys
> shop in South Yarra, Melbourne, Australia. I'll think I
> have his card somewhere.  Man. Thanks for putting this
> together. 
> Sent from my iPhone
> On Mar 9, 2012, at 4:56 PM, "ivan" <ivan at m127.com>
> wrote:OK,
> guys. I
> guess to expedite and to not hold your breaths longer than
> necessary and risk putting your expectations too high, maybe
> I will just unveil the idea now. The
> objective is this:
> to get a professional developer to create the a6
> librarian/editor our synth deserves> standalone,
> Mac/W-compatible, including all functions considered
> standard in pro librarian/editor (as much as the a6’s
> MIDI implementation permits).  My
> approach to make it happen is this:
> Basically, the idea came from observing the same question
> over and over in different forums and communities: where can
> I get a pro A6 editor/librarian?  In digging more, I
> saw many attempts have been made and usually those were
> medium to very low quality results compared to what a synth
> such as the a6 deserves. So
> I thought: how come we don’t have a professional one?
>  From my findings in talking directly to some
> developers, I realized they were hesitant from the low
> direct requests AND because when they were
> proactively interested, the a6 was simply NOT
> ready for it (remember how the MIDI implementation was
> one of the major shortcomings of the initial
> OSs?)   Long story short, I have been in talks
> with a couple of pro reputable developers, and they
> showed genuine initial interest when I told them that
> we could gather at least 100 interested licensees for
> version 1. Let’s be realistic, who would want
> to take the risk to develop such product for a discontinued
> hw synth just like that? So
> my idea to approach this obstacle is that we create
> together a win-win situation both for us (getting the
> pro editor-librarian that we want and need) and for them
> (securing a minimally juicy initial user base of 100 users
> and the rights over the sw for future maintenance and
> marketing, etc.)  Thus, this is not a
> for-profit initiative for us (especially not for me for the
> sake of honesty), we just want a GREAT librarian at the very
> least… and so I took the initiative to talk to devs
> and to rally for your attention, which is why we are
> talking about this now :).  I know there may be better
> ways and what not, but without initiative and driven will
> there is nothing really, and we all know there was indeed
> nothing going on for our a6 since the dismal product
> discontinuation was announced. Finally
> for now, in talking to these developers, they think my
> suggestion to rally for a committed and guaranteed initial
> user base of at least 100 licensees so that they see the
> project is financially feasible IS A GOOD ONE and I have
> their initial interest, and so it’s up to us to show
> unity and genuine, honest interest for this
> project. So,
> before we go any further, I would like to ask you directly 2
> things for which an answer would be very appreciated: 
> 1.     
> Would
> you like to see a professional librarian or editor or both
> as much as I would?  2.     
> Would
> you be willing to help me rally for the initial 100
> licensees target AND
> be one of them, which already is sweet sounding to the
> ears of potential devs?  If
> my idea seems stupid to you, I apologize (please spare the
> guy with the initiative!!) However, I assure you it has been
> well received by potential pro devs and I truly think the
> 100 licensee target could be easily attainable if we
> pull together. I
> am one of those willing to even provide the funds for 3
> licenses myself for the sake of seeing this positive project
> taking off the ground. Of course, I never agreed to pay for
> the full license in advance in my proposal to them.  My
> thought was that they could get inspired even with a 50%
> down payment just to show our seriousness, which should be
> more than enough, and we can even negotiate this further
> with WHOEVER we want to work with for this project,
> once we start laying down the options. For
> now,
> let me know your responses to those 2 questions guys, and
> thanks much for your attention.  Hope this was not
> uberlong email,  I tried to be as concise and
> informative as possible. Ivan._______________________________________________
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