[A6] Mini vs A6 part 2

[Tom Remi Flygel]

I found that keeping both autotunings off for a long time would put my A6 
badly out of tune after a few days (or even if I opened the door to let in 
fresh air). And we're not speaking pleasant detuning here, more like the 
lower part of the keyboard would be a halfnote lower than the upper part. So 
I turned temp tuning back on and kept background tuning off.
Funny you mention this, because the unstable tuning WAS referred to as a 
drawback among minimoog players. Rick Wakeman for instance, says that his 
synths could drop the pitch several halfnotes during a whole concert, 
forcing him to transpose his parts accordingly down the keyboard to get the 
right pitch. He would start on a C and end up playing A at the end (to keep 
the same pitch that is)


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Colin Chung" <coolcolj at optushome.com.au>
To: <a6 at code404.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 9:38 PM
Subject: Re: [A6] Mini vs A6 part 2


> here is the patch :)
>
> http://www.members.optushome.com.au/coolcolj/A6/
>
> Its basic simple patch, but it's a functional template type patch
> You can get a ton of variations just playing with the filter, VCO settings
> filter envelope etc
> some really nice leads can be had really easily too with portamento on etc
>
> I didn't modulate the VCOs at all, it needs to have both background and 
> temp
> tuning off
> Adds that extra creaminess, but and even then it doesn't drift like the
> Minimoog
> Turn on temp tuning if you want a tighter phasey sound, but a Minimoog
> doesn't sound like that
> maybe the later oscilaltopr board versions :)
> So you need to modulate one of the VCOs with a fairly high frequency 
> smooth
> random LFO
> and modulate the keytracking on one of the VCOs as well.
> The top and bottom notes should be slightly out as per my Minimoog
> I can normally tune that out, but it will never be like that the next 
> day...
>
> Some things to note the volume is pretty low, it's like that for a reason 
> so
> it doesn't clip
> internally. Both envelope 1 and 2 are set on legato
> The engine optimiser setting for the pitch is on ultrafast
> which may cause problems with portamento on, so adjust to taste
>
> also note the settings ENV1, trying to emulate the envelope quirk on the
> Minimoog :)
>
> I fired up my SH2 to also compare on the same settings, and the A6 holds 
> up
> really well
> to it. Sh2 is quite a bit rougher sounding though
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <EdgeOfDawn at uboot.com>
> To: <a6 at code404.com>
> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 4:03 AM
> Subject: [A6] Mini vs A6 part 2
>
>
>> Hi Colin,
>> your Mini emulation sounds excellent, great work! Would you mind sharing
> your A6 patch? I would really like to see how you modulated the VCOs.  ;-)
>>
>> Best,
>> - Edge Of Dawn -
>>
>>
>> [A6] Mini vs A6 part 2
>> Colin Chung coolcolj at optushome.com.au
>> Wed Dec 7 15:58:31 PST 2005
>>
>> Ok I did another comparo, this time I just banged out a patch on the A6 
>> to
>> imitate what the Mini
>> had when I turned it on. 2 VCO bass, with sawtooth and square at unison
>>
>> I didn't spend more than 30mins to match em
>> At first I thought no way the A6 could do it, they just sound different
>> But after phutzing a bit, it came closer than I expected!
>>
>> No tricks or mods. Since the Minimoog drifts like a mofo, and the
>> keytracking of the VCO
>> is probably out too! You really need to mod the A6's VCOs to get that
> juicey
>> effect.
>> But not too bad at all even despite that, it does sound tighter and more
>> sterile though
>>
>> I did two clips one as the background and temperature tuning off
>>
> http://www.members.optushome.com.au/coolcolj2/Mini_A6/CCJ_Mini_A6_BassLead1.
>> mp3
>>
>> and the other just background off, you can here that tighter more phased
>> sound
>>
> http://www.members.optushome.com.au/coolcolj2/Mini_A6/CCJ_Mini_A6_BassLead1_
>> temptuned.mp3
>>
>>
>> Off course the Mini sounds better, and I didn't work to get rid of the A6
>> clickiness
>> But if you heard the A6, you would think Moog bass I'm sure :)
>> I don't think you'd find another polysynth that can do that!
>>
>> if the url gets wordwrapped just go here
>> http://www.members.optushome.com.au/coolcolj2/Mini_A6
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