Moog/A6 was Re: [AH] Re: [A6] Re: [AH] New Track - Electro/Trip-Hop/Dub

[F.A.S. Truhan III]

	I notice there's some wicked cross-posting going on. I hope there aren't
alot of angry people and the AH and A6 lists over this, this seems like
valid subject matter for both lists.

> Even My Jupiter 8 can't touch the moog.
> I am using Event ASP8's, with a M-audio Sub.   Playing bass patches with 
> the Voyager, I can shake the room so hard you would think there was an 
> earthquake.  No other synth I own can do that.  I downloaded every
Andromeda 
> patch I could, tried them all.. Nothing can compare to the strength of
the 
> Voyager.  I even asked many times from people to proove it, and they
never 
> got back to me about it.  Perhaps everyone that says the Andy can get
Moog 
> bass needs to listen to a Voyager Side by side with an Andromeda.

	I've done that. Honestly, the first thing that came to my mind after doing
so was how good a job Alesis did at achieving the Moog character with the
A6's oscillators and filter. Does the Voyager sound bigger? Yes. Is it a
cosmic gulf of transgalactic infinitiy-worth of difference that most people
claim? No. It's quite a subtle difference, that all but the most anal of
people will not notice.
	Now, a more valid argument would be the difference in sound between the A6
and the very characteristic and unmatchable bark peculiar to the original
MiniMoog's filter. I've only heard modular gear capable of doing that. Then
again, even other Moogs (Voyager included) can't match that bark so that's
probably a moot point. 

>  My Micro 
> Korg can get better sub osc than an Andromeda. 

	Oh come now, you're just being silly. The MS-2000 I have directly over my
A6 verifies that quite handily.

> Don't get me wrong, the 
> Andromeda is great. I love it, but I just don't think you could even 
> justify a statement  like moog bass.  Does anyone else have a sub hooked
up 
> to an Andy, and a Voyager?  If you can't hear a huge difference, then let
me 
> know.

	I'm using KRK monitors and sub, I'm officially letting you know.

> I have a Voyager, and an Andromeda A6.
> The Andy doesn't come close to moog bass.. I don't know why people keep 
> trying to convince them selves.  
	
	An A6 is not the only thing that can duplicate 90% or more of the Moog
sound. Ken MacBeth's M5 is a good recent example of that. I mean come on,
are we talking about instruments or talismans of hipster cool? Making music
or 'making the scene'?
	I just don't understand the insecurity so many Moog owners seem to exhibit
when their Moogs are compared to non-Moogs. I never see that kind of a
reaction when people for example say they prefer a CS-80 to a Jupiter 8, or
Prophet 5 versus an OB-X. 
	My Ferrari-is-better-than-your-Lamborghini arguments are just such
exercises in futility, no one is ever going to agree. Why must people
insist on having them? If what you own works for you and you enjoy it, it's
worth every penny, but why must everyone try to convince everyone else that
their personal opinion or preference is so much more valid than anyone
else's? It's not. That's why different companies make different products
for different people. An opinion can be expressed without denigrating
someone else's opposing opinion. It's not a black and white, us vs them,
polarized situation, nor should it be.	
	Can't we all just get along?  ;)

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