[A6] Who's getting busy with their Andromeda - Slow down now....

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on 17-09-2003 19:14, Matt Hutchison at hutchshop at hotmail.com wrote:

My humble opinion:

I think both ideas can exist side to side. It's a matter of approach.
Actually I use both in sounddesigning. Sometimes I take a sound that is
somewhat close to what I would like to achieve and I am diving into that
sound then, to see what is happening. Other times i start from scratch to
create the sound I am after if i feel confident enough to do so.

Besides that, why not having banks with favourit sounds? I mean, not
everybody wants to create every single sound for 100% by themselves.

I can imagine that people working on a musictrack, just scroll through 20
bass sounds to pick one out that fits in, tweak it a little and use it.
Nothing wrong with that is it?

But I like your idea as well Matt, to really discuss about particular
sounds/modulations etc.

Again, I think these ideas can live together in peace on this list.

Regards, Boele

> Um, guys?  guys????
> 
> What you're all suggesting now is exactly what I was hoping to avoid.  I
> understand that you all might not be into the essence of my idea and decide
> to take it in another direction, but first let me point out the pitfalls of
> where I see this going.
> 
> In regards to organizing all patches: The goal is to improve sound design
> skills not patch choosing skills.  See the difference?  You will learn more
> from designing 1 really great sound that does what you want rather than
> scrolling through 100 'ok' patches, pick one, and then tweak the cutoff a
> bit.
> 
> In regards to voting, this would make me unsubscribe immediately :-)
> (seriously though), and I don't think its necessary.   I think some details
> would help make this all clearer.
> 
> Here's how I see this evolving.  First off, let's start talking about some
> patches we'd like to make.  For instance, someone talked about making a
> great piano patch a while back.  Now, let's say someone posts to the list
> "Hey, Anyone make a great piano patch or want to learn how?" Let's say 3
> people are interested in working on the piano patch.  All they have to do is
> email each other off the list to discuss the **goals of the patch** and how
> they plan to communicate between each other to iteratively improve it.
> 
> Then they can work away on it unbeknownst to the rest of the list, emailing
> it back and forth, and maybe posting interesting side-notes to the rest of
> the list.  When the patch has stabilized or plateaued, they can post it.
> 
> If in the meantime someone wanted to join in on the piano creation, they
> could just post to the list, "Hey, Anyone working on a piano patch?"  Now at
> this point, this person could get involved with the existing piano patch,
> or, perhaps begin a new patch, taking what the others have learned in a new
> direction.  The key here is that these patches would have to have a goal in
> mind.  Not e-piano #1, more like 70's fusion rhodes, etc.
> 
> Another key here is that we don't race out the blocks trying to create every
> patch, or create placeholders for every type of patch.  That's just not a
> useful application of your time if the goal is to learn sound design.  I'm
> sure there are certain commonalities amongst us, like maybe there are 2
> people, today, who are really after a great 80's rock guitar sound.  Maybe 3
> people want to make a phased funk organ sound, 4 people want to create sound
> X from album Y.
> 
> To learn requires focus and research... and then tweaking, in that order.
> Remember there are many acoustic physicists who have done a lot of the
> experimenting for us.  For us A6 users the question is how to apply all this
> knowledge on the A6.
> 
> So.... before we form a committee to discuss the formation of committee's,
> let's just start discussing what patches we would like to learn inside out.
> Me, right now, I'm into organs.  Today, I'll be doing some hands-on research
> about organ sounds.
> 
> If anyone would like to discuss making a cool organ sound, or what is
> organ-ness, shoot me an email.  I'll post the good bits to the list at
> large.
> 
> And by the way, please don't include the entire email you are responding to,
> it makes it hard to sort through the digest and find the new reply.
> 
> -Matt
> 
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