[A6] modern analogs

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>> It is still something to discuss..
>> Ever listened to a minimoog compared to the andromedas software envs?
>> I really like the process knob and the optimizer..
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>> But still there is a difference to the fast envs of the moog modular or
>> minimoog - it seems the curve itself may need optimization and the andro
>> went into the right direction.. Still it is not as fast as analogue ENVs..
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>    Well I have to say, any subtle bit of lacking I thought the A6 had in
> envelope snap ended when I grabbed the last (though not really official) OS
> version with 'ultra-fast' settings. Is it as fast a Mini or VOyager
> envelopes? I don't know. I know the old OS was close but not quite.
> Honestly, the new OS with the 'ultrafast' optimizer settings are fast
> enough so I don't care. Maybe if you broke out the test equipment you'd see
> it was a few milliseconds too slow, but it's not enough for me to notice
> anymore, and that's enough for me as I tend to have sharper ears for that
> sort of thing than most all the musicians I tend to fraternize with.

Oops, I meant it IS FAST,but the mini's is faster..
But I it is very ok if set to ultra..!! really!!
One of the best soft ENVs ever..

But you can hear a difference still.. The punch..

>> The hardware and chip things:
>> Well you can still hear discrete and IC-sounds..
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>   Yes, as far as I know that was never up for debate really. I however,
> was arguing that there is no quantifiable difference in sound quality
> between IC vs. ASIC, and I have to say I still do stand by that assertion.
> I've owned a number of nice old analogues, and played with a huge
> cross-section of others, and I honestly find that the vast majority of
> people who claim the A6 is lacking compared to older IC based poly's are
> more from the sphere of collectors who's old status symbols are no longer
> what they once were, as opposed to composer and musicians that actually use
> and listen to the things as they were intended to be, as instruments.

That¹s one point , but I am sure I can still hear a difference between the
a6 and the moog modular ;)
Not for "collectors" reasons: I am not a "vintage" guy.. I am a sound guy ;)
Even if software sounded like that I'd go for that software..

Anyway: the andro has best of both worlds in it.. It's sound is good enough
to love it ;)
Means: Has BALLS!! ;)

Or: you play it and do not have to be told "this is great" it sounds great
and goes right into the heard/stomach (well,.. It has BALLS!) ;)
Sorry, I'm german,so please excuse if this sounds somewhat silly..

>> But there are some IC-based synths using the same chips (!!) that sound
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>> better then others..
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>    Well, yes and no. When you say things like that, you start to get into
> opinion territory, and that can be kind of dangerous as AH/AHOT
> demonstrates quite effectively hehe.

VERY right!!.. ;))
Some prefer/like the clean some prefer/like the rough some like the warmth..
Etc.

And: the math "best filter" is of course NOT the musically best filter..
I like those filters that still sound good (ha,whats "good"?) if resonance
is up and is still warm sounding..

In theory this is a bad behaviour ;)

Well: the andros sound is very good, maybe there are OTHER GOOD ONES.. But
beside the xpander it is a very good one..
The only bothering thing: both got slow lfos.. So if I want them fast it is
up to the moog or the digital stuff..

I can understand everyone who just wants another sound and buys more gear..
But I don't think it is necessary for the music..
It's best to just have some good ones and to choose the BEST FOR YOU and
YOUR MUSIC..

If you are a collector /hobbist: maybe it makes you happier to OWN them
all.. I am sure: it is a coool thing to have them all read to play..
But it's up to money,room and time ;)

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