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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I am suggesting a tentative competitive price based on the market for professional synth editors, just so that devs get inspired. <b><u>Pro</u></b> editors go from $70 to a bit above $100-110 USD.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Of course guys, if we can drive many more users in than the initial target, we then <b>automatically</b> acquire more power to negotiate the price down with the devs, which would be great.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hence community support <u>is</u> crucial.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Start inviting people over, so we can succeed.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I saw the email from “leo en lydia”> yes, we would strive for a MacOS version TOO!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> Ing. Ivan Hirlander [mailto:addam@addam.sk] <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, March 09, 2012 1:51 AM<br><b>To:</b> a6@lists.soulrebels.com<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [A6] Gathering at least 100 Andromeda users...<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Hi Ivan,<br><br>any price idea?<br><br>Ivan<br><br>Dňa 9.3.2012 10:35, ivan wrote / napísal(a): <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman , serif","serif"'>Fantastic!, 3 are in below, plus 3 from me = <b>6 (in 5 minutes!!), 94 left to go.</b></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman , serif","serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman , serif","serif"'>Keep them coming!! Thanks for your support guys.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman , serif","serif"'>I will keep track and count of all the yay sayers!</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman , serif","serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman , serif","serif"'>We can make it happen guys. I will update you soon on an action plan to rally for more initial supporters.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman , serif","serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman , serif","serif"'>Ditto on the VST capability. And ditto on a fair price based at least on the market.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman , serif","serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman , serif","serif"'>When we get enough users in the affirmative, I will start pushing for those two aspects and see what's possible technically according to the devs. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman , serif","serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman , serif","serif"'>Ivan.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman , serif","serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman , serif","serif"'>PS> Off to bed for now. </span><o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 1.0pt 0in'><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman , serif","serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman , serif","serif"'>Hi,</span><br><br>I think this is a good idea. I'd be a buyer at a reasonable price. I would however insist on a VST version too, that would make the librarian 10x more useful and easier to use.<br><br>Kind regards,<br><br>Andromedaris6<o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 1.0pt 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoPlainText>Op 9 mrt. 2012, om 09:56 heeft ivan het volgende geschreven:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> 1. Would you like to see a professional librarian or editor or both as much as I would? <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Yes! Good initiative :-)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> 2. Would you be willing to help me rally for the initial 100 licensees target AND be one of them, which already is sweet sounding to the ears of potential devs?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Yes. I'm in for one. And I do second the VST/AU option of Andromedaris6.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Even more dreaming: iPad version!=<o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 1.0pt 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Rizal Khan [<a href="mailto:rizalkhan@gmail.com">mailto:rizalkhan@gmail.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, March 09, 2012 1:11 AM<br><b>To:</b> ivan<br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:a6@lists.soulrebels.com"><a6@lists.soulrebels.com></a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [A6] Gathering at least 100 Andromeda users...</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>1. Yes. Heck I'd even pay for it if it's in the same price range as the Moog voyager one. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>2. I don't know any other A6 users in Malaysia. I had mine specially ordered. The only time I'd seen an A6 outside my home was at this guys shop in South Yarra, Melbourne, Australia. I'll think I have his card somewhere. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Man. Thanks for putting this together. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Mar 9, 2012, at 4:56 PM, "ivan" <<a href="mailto:ivan@m127.com">ivan@m127.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>OK, guys.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I guess to expedite and to not hold your breaths longer than necessary and risk putting your expectations too high, maybe I will just unveil the idea now.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The objective is this</span></u></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>: to get a <b>professional</b> developer to create the <b>a6 librarian/editor our synth deserves</b>> standalone, Mac/W-compatible, including <u>all</u> functions considered standard in pro librarian/editor (as much as the a6’s MIDI implementation permits). </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>My approach to make it happen is this</span></u></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>: Basically, the idea came from observing the same question over and over in different forums and communities: where can I get a pro A6 editor/librarian? In digging more, I saw many attempts have been made and usually those were medium to very low quality results compared to what a synth such as the a6 deserves.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>So I thought: how come we don’t have a professional one? From my findings in talking directly to some developers, I realized they were hesitant from the low direct requests AND because <u>when they were</u> proactively interested, the <b>a6</b> <b>was simply NOT ready</b> for it (remember how the MIDI implementation was one of the major shortcomings of the initial OSs?) Long story short, I have been in talks with a couple of <b>pro reputable developers</b>, and they <b>showed genuine initial interest</b> when I told them that <b>we could gather at least 100 interested licensees for version 1</b>. Let’s be realistic, <u>who would want to take the risk to develop such product for a discontinued hw synth just like that?</u></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>So my idea to approach this obstacle is that <b>we create together a win-win situation</b> both for us (getting the pro editor-librarian that we want and need) and for them (securing a minimally juicy initial user base of 100 users and the rights over the sw for future maintenance and marketing, etc.) Thus, this is <b><u>not</u></b> a for-profit initiative for us (especially not for me for the sake of honesty), we just want a GREAT librarian at the very least… <b>and so I took the initiative to talk to devs and to rally for your attention</b>, which is why we are talking about this now :). I know there may be better ways and what not, but without initiative and driven will there is nothing really, and we all know there was indeed nothing going on for our a6 since the dismal product discontinuation was announced.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Finally for now, in talking to these developers, they think my suggestion to rally for a committed and guaranteed initial user base of at least 100 licensees so that they see the project is financially feasible IS A GOOD ONE and I have their initial interest, and so it’s up to us to show unity and genuine, honest interest for this project.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>So, before we go any further, I would like to ask you directly 2 things for which an answer would be very appreciated: </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Would you like to see a professional librarian or editor or both as much as I would? </span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>2.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Would you be willing to help me rally for the initial 100 licensees target AND</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> <b>be one of them, which already is sweet sounding to the ears of potential devs?</b></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>If my idea seems stupid to you, I apologize (please spare the guy with the initiative!!) However, I assure you it has been well received by potential pro devs and I truly think the 100 licensee target could be easily attainable <b><u>if we pull together</u></b>.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I am one of those willing to even provide the funds for 3 licenses myself for the sake of seeing this positive project taking off the ground. Of course, I never agreed to pay for the full license in advance in my proposal to them. My thought was that they could get inspired even with a 50% down payment just to show our seriousness, which should be more than enough, and we can even negotiate this further <b>with WHOEVER</b> we want to work with for this project, once we start laying down the options.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>For now</span></u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>, let me know your responses to those 2 questions guys, and thanks much for your attention. Hope this was not uberlong email, I tried to be as concise and informative as possible.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Ivan.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>a6 mailing list<br><a href="mailto:a6@soulrebels.com">a6@soulrebels.com</a><br><a href="http://lists.soulrebels.com/listinfo.cgi/a6-soulrebels.com">http://lists.soulrebels.com/listinfo.cgi/a6-soulrebels.com</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>a6 mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="mailto:a6@soulrebels.com">a6@soulrebels.com</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://lists.soulrebels.com/listinfo.cgi/a6-soulrebels.com">http://lists.soulrebels.com/listinfo.cgi/a6-soulrebels.com</a><o:p></o:p></pre><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>