[A6] Gathering at least 100 Andromeda users...

Fri Mar 9 03:08:54 PST 2012

OK well I never really understood the need for a computer editor for a synth 
covered in knobs. Makes sense for synths without a proper interface but not 
something like the A6 at least for me.  For librarian purposes I get by with the 
existing PC A6Librarian...

Doug

>
>From: ivan <ivan at m127.com>
>To: Ing. Ivan Hirlander <addam at addam.sk>; a6 at lists.soulrebels.com
>Sent: Fri, March 9, 2012 2:10:58 AM
>Subject: Re: [A6] Gathering at least 100 Andromeda users...
>
>
>I am suggesting a tentative competitive price based on the market for 
>professional synth editors, just so that devs get inspired.  Pro editors go from 
>$70 to a bit above $100-110 USD.
> 
>Of course guys, if we can drive many more users in than the initial target, we 
>then automatically acquire more power to negotiate the price down with the devs, 
>which would be great.
> 
>Hence community support is crucial.
> 
>Start inviting people over, so we can succeed.
> 
>I saw the email from “leo en lydia”> yes, we would strive for a MacOS version 
>TOO!
> 
> 
> 
>From:Ing. Ivan Hirlander [mailto:addam at addam.sk] 
>Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 1:51 AM
>To: a6 at lists.soulrebels.com
>Subject: Re: [A6] Gathering at least 100 Andromeda users...
> 
>Hi Ivan,
>
>any price idea?
>
>Ivan
>
>Dňa 9.3.2012 10:35, ivan  wrote / napísal(a): 
>Fantastic!, 3 are in below, plus 3 from me = 6 (in 5 minutes!!), 94 left to go.
> 
>Keep them coming!!  Thanks for your support guys.
>I will keep track and count of all the yay sayers!
> 
>We can make it happen guys.  I will update you soon on an action plan to rally 
>for more initial supporters.
> 
>Ditto on the VST capability. And ditto on a fair price based at least on the 
>market.
> 
>When we get enough users in the affirmative, I will start pushing for those two 
>aspects and see what's possible technically according to the devs. 
>
> 
>Ivan.
> 
>PS> Off to bed for now. 
> 
>Hi,
>
>I think this is a good idea. I'd be a buyer at a reasonable price. I would 
>however insist on a VST version too, that would make the librarian 10x more 
>useful and easier to use.
>
>Kind regards,
>
>Andromedaris6
> 
>Op 9 mrt. 2012, om 09:56 heeft ivan het volgende geschreven:
> 
>> 
>> 1.       Would you like to see a professional librarian or editor or both as 
>>much as I would?  
>>
> 
>Yes! Good initiative :-)
> 
>> 
>> 2.       Would you be willing to help me rally for the initial 100 licensees 
>>target AND be one of them, which already is sweet sounding to the ears of 
>>potential devs?
> 
>Yes. I'm in for one. And I do second the VST/AU option of Andromedaris6.
>Even more dreaming: iPad version!=
> 
> 
> 
>From:Rizal Khan [mailto:rizalkhan at gmail.com] 
>Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 1:11 AM
>To: ivan
>Cc: <a6 at lists.soulrebels.com>
>Subject: Re: [A6] Gathering at least 100 Andromeda users...
> 
>1. Yes. Heck I'd even pay for it if it's in the same price range as the Moog 
>voyager one. 
>2. I don't know any other A6 users in Malaysia. I had mine specially ordered. 
>The only time I'd seen an A6 outside my home was at this guys shop in South 
>Yarra, Melbourne, Australia. I'll think I have his card somewhere. 
> 
>Man. Thanks for putting this together. 
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>On Mar 9, 2012, at 4:56 PM, "ivan" <ivan at m127.com> wrote:
>OK, guys.
>> 
>>I guess to expedite and to not hold your breaths longer than necessary and risk 
>>putting your expectations too high, maybe I will just unveil the idea now.
>> 
>>The objective is this: to get a professional developer to create the a6 
>>librarian/editor our synth deserves> standalone, Mac/W-compatible, including all 
>>functions considered standard in pro librarian/editor (as much as the a6’s MIDI 
>>implementation permits). 
>>
>> 
>>My approach to make it happen is this: Basically, the idea came from observing 
>>the same question over and over in different forums and communities: where can I 
>>get a pro A6 editor/librarian?  In digging more, I saw many attempts have been 
>>made and usually those were medium to very low quality results compared to what 
>>a synth such as the a6 deserves.
>> 
>>So I thought: how come we don’t have a professional one?  From my findings in 
>>talking directly to some developers, I realized they were hesitant from the low 
>>direct requests AND because when they were proactively interested, the a6 was 
>>simply NOT ready for it (remember how the MIDI implementation was one of the 
>>major shortcomings of the initial OSs?)   Long story short, I have been in talks 
>>with a couple of pro reputable developers, and they showed genuine initial 
>>interest when I told them that we could gather at least 100 interested licensees 
>>for version 1. Let’s be realistic, who would want to take the risk to develop 
>>such product for a discontinued hw synth just like that?
>> 
>>So my idea to approach this obstacle is that we create together a win-win 
>>situation both for us (getting the pro editor-librarian that we want and need) 
>>and for them (securing a minimally juicy initial user base of 100 users and the 
>>rights over the sw for future maintenance and marketing, etc.)  Thus, this is 
>>not a for-profit initiative for us (especially not for me for the sake of 
>>honesty), we just want a GREAT librarian at the very least… and so I took the 
>>initiative to talk to devs and to rally for your attention, which is why we are 
>>talking about this now :).  I know there may be better ways and what not, but 
>>without initiative and driven will there is nothing really, and we all know 
>>there was indeed nothing going on for our a6 since the dismal product 
>>discontinuation was announced.
>> 
>>Finally for now, in talking to these developers, they think my suggestion to 
>>rally for a committed and guaranteed initial user base of at least 100 licensees 
>>so that they see the project is financially feasible IS A GOOD ONE and I have 
>>their initial interest, and so it’s up to us to show unity and genuine, honest 
>>interest for this project.
>> 
>>So, before we go any further, I would like to ask you directly 2 things for 
>>which an answer would be very appreciated:  
>>
>>1.      Would you like to see a professional librarian or editor or both as much 
>>as I would?  
>>2.      Would you be willing to help me rally for the initial 100 licensees 
>>target ANDbe one of them, which already is sweet sounding to the ears of 
>>potential devs?
>> 
>> 
>>If my idea seems stupid to you, I apologize (please spare the guy with the 
>>initiative!!) However, I assure you it has been well received by potential pro 
>>devs and I truly think the 100 licensee target could be easily attainable if we 
>>pull together.
>> 
>>I am one of those willing to even provide the funds for 3 licenses myself for 
>>the sake of seeing this positive project taking off the ground. Of course, I 
>>never agreed to pay for the full license in advance in my proposal to them.  My 
>>thought was that they could get inspired even with a 50% down payment just to 
>>show our seriousness, which should be more than enough, and we can even 
>>negotiate this further with WHOEVER we want to work with for this project, once 
>>we start laying down the options.
>> 
>>For now, let me know your responses to those 2 questions guys, and thanks much 
>>for your attention.  Hope this was not uberlong email,  I tried to be as concise 
>>and informative as possible.
>> 
>>Ivan.
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