[A6] RE: Neuron (ot)
KC Jackson
subby33 at yahoo.com
Wed Mar 12 12:06:43 PST 2003
--- Tom Moravansky <tom at synthservices.com> wrote:
> > > >>> Sampler - no. The neuron is closer to
> something that
> > > >>> does physical modeling, like the Z1/Prophecy
> > >
> > > The principle behind the neuron is NOT like
> physical
> > > modelling!! While pm generates sounds after
> modeled
> > > instruments neuron makes analysis of a sample
> and uses a
> > > special model the keep as "an algo" and
> afterwards can be
> > > tweaked (paramters are def'd by that model)..
> > >
> > > The neuron is not a sampler and not a pm synth.
> > > And: it is not just an 80ies digital synth
> emulation.. ;)
> > >
> > > But: you CAN sometimes make sounds,that may also
> be done by
> > > those but the way it does it is completely
> different..
> > >
>
>
> I have to say that I'm with Frank on this one. All
> the on-line demos
> sound like a computer soundcard run through a
> mid-quality reverb/delay
> unit.
>
> I know the Neuron is not any of the above, but
> that's how the available
> demos make it sound.
>
> Based on the amount of pre-sale hype the Neuron has
> had, I was
> expecting to hear things that blew me away.
I have been paying attention to the neuron for quite a
long time and I agree with Frank Truhan , Justin
Maxwell, and Tom M.
The way you create the sounds is indeed different. I
completley understand the process that goes behind
making the sound and i was completely enthralled when
i first learned of it, because i absolutely love
analogue synthesis as well as heavy sampling. I use
both a lot, so here was finally a synth that could
control the parameter of a sound that you couldn't do
with a sampler.
But when i heard it? Yuck. It sounds like a sound
being put through several plug ins that you can use in
a copy of SoundForge. Now, we dont know all the
sounds a Neuron can make, because we haven't used it
ourselves (or most of us rather).
I still want to test this thing out. But i think it
sounds rather dry and is only being used for huge pads
. . . i can use something else for that. In fact, i
could just use my andromeda, sample it, and put it
through some computer software and get something
similar.
Even better than that, i could get a K5000s and put it
through a bunch of plug ins to get these types of
sounds. Its nothing that computer software cant do.
No computer software CANNOT do what the Neuron is
doing in terms of synthesis, but in terms of sounds?
They're pretty damn close.
Thats just my take on it. I'm definitley not going to
shell out 5,000 dollars for it considering thats 1/3
of my projected studio cost. And as far as new
technology goes, no matter how amazing it is, the
sounds you get at the end are what matter.
Look at the Minimoog and Andromeda . . . they use
techniques we've had for more than 30 years now, but
they are the best sounding synths out there IMO. The
only thing after subtractive that came out that was
any good was FM, and sampling. Other than that, its
been a rehash for years.
I also want to hear Elektron Monosynth. Lets see what
that can put out with a lower price tag, yet its
pushing the ideas of synthesis.
KC Jackson
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