[A6] Ordered A6, patch sets and data card

UnderTow undertow at trance.org
Wed Apr 16 12:44:41 PDT 2003



On Wed, 16 Apr 2003, Chad Gould wrote:

> > > The LFOs stop at 25 Hz, the EGs are only 2 ms fast, the
> > > Arp and Sequencer don?t send Midi, the knobs send only
> > > NRPR, etc...
> > I see. Well, snappy EGs are an issue for me too, but I heard
> > really fast attacks in some of the mp3s on code404. Doesn't
> > that UltraPercussive engine mode change the the speed to
> > 1ms or faster?
>
> That's what I thought - maybe not that fast, though. It's enough, however,
> to get clicking, which is exactly the speed you want. I haven't heard an
> official measurement.
>
> (Us synth kids... if the EG is speedy enough to "click", people complain
> about the click. If the EG isn't speed enough to click, people complain
> about the snappiness. I tell you... :P

Yes but what causes the click? If the machine can sync the OSC and
everything else and open the amp in less than 1 ms. Would it click?

(If the OSC is free running then the click is close to inevitable unless
the amp opens right when the OSC is passing 0 crossing.)

In other words, won't different synths produce a click with different AEG
attack times? (As in some synths might click with a 2ms attack, some with
a 20ms attack and, theoreticaly at least, others won't click even with a
0.0000001 nanosecond AEG attack?)

So why should a fast EGs automaticly mean it clicks? Sounds like somthing
that has become acceptable over time but isn't inherently right.

But then again ... what do I know? Please correct my uneducated ideas. :)

I still have difficulties getting the right bassline attack with the Andy.
The clicking isn't helping. I want it to actually respond _faster_
without clicking.

Actually I would guess that the original envelope attack times were chosen
because they didn't click. This was negated by the ultra fast envelope
modes added later. Of course some people on this list will surely be able
to tell me I am full of non-sense!

UnderTow



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